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Star Wars Resistance Season 1 (2018-19)

Discussion in 'TV Shows' started by Sam Favate, Aug 18, 2018.

  1. Sam Favate

    Sam Favate Lead Actor

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    Not this fan. I've been on board since 1977. Don't speak for me.

    How did she do this? She has never offended me. I think her performance as head of Lucasfilm has been great.

    How? Be specific. I've been paying attention to Star Wars fandom for 40 years and I have no idea what you are talking about.

    Evidence? If she has stepped away from an active role, who is running Lucasfilm? There is no evidence of any of this.

    I've heard nothing about a Joss Whedon series. There is show being helmed by Jon Favreau, but nothing by Whedon.

    Suggestion: Stay away from fan boards that trash Star Wars and rely only on real news. Don't be toxic.
     
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    RobertR Executive Producer

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    You shouldn't make the mistake of thinking that the only reason anyone would have for criticizing Kathleen Kennedy is because she's a woman.


    There's clearly more to it than that. NO one ever objected to Leia being a main character in the OT.
     
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  3. TravisR

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    That sums it up pretty accurately.
     
  4. Sam Favate

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  5. TravisR

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    And to piggyback on that, The Last Jedi is the best selling Blu-ray of the year. While sales in no way denote quality, it does undo the idea that 'everyone' hated TLJ.
     
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    100% agree. I could care less she's a woman. She doesn't care about the fan base. She needs to go. If she were a man I'd feel the same way with that attitude.
     
  7. TravisR

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    Assuming that's even true, why should she? Or better yet, how should she show she cares about the fan base? In her tenure at LFL, she made quality SW stories and to me, that's proof that she's does care about the fans.
     
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    Different strokes for different folks.

    Not sure what you mean by "Why should she care" about the fan base? That seems pretty obvious to me. Isolating and marginalizing a fan base is never a good idea.
     
  9. Sam Favate

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    On what do you base this? What has she done to make you think she doesn't care?

    She's about to receive one of the highest honors in the movie business (and the only award the Motion Picture Academy has ever given George Lucas). I very much doubt she is going anywhere she doesn't want to go.
     
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    I'm glad she's going to receive a high honor. Kudos to her.

    I'll just be honest, I don't agree with the direction the films have taken. Maybe I'm a minority opinion, but I still don't understand how Luke took 3 films to become a Jedi Master and Rey can basically just pick up a lightsaber and go to town with no training. That's just one issue I have with the new films. The other is the seemingly complete lack of respect Luke was given. His character didn't fit with the original series in my opinion.

    But to be honest it really doesn't bother me anymore. I just thought I would chime in because of the blanket statements that people that didn't support KK were just hating on her because she was a woman, which is far from the truth.
     
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    But Sam was very clear in his comments (emphasis added) "As for Kathleen Kennedy, there are a lot of haters who don't think a woman should be in charge of Star Wars - the same folks who don't want to see a woman be a main character in the films. I say, ignore them."

    I can't speak for commentary on the broader internet, but Sam at least wasn't making blanket statements, but rather stating that a lot of the flak has come from haters who have demonstrated casual or clear misogyny. Obviously there are good people out there who just don't like the films for myriad reasons (the reasons you describe, for example). But the coordinated attempts from haters ("man" groups) because of the role Kennedy is in, and Rey being the lead character the way that Luke was the primary protagonist in the original trilogy, couching their commentary in sexist, Neanderthal language is the corner of fandom that we should ALL want to distance ourselves from and let reasoned debate about the merits of the actual film prevail (which is largely what I have thankfully seen on HTF, with a couple of sad outliers :))
     
  12. TravisR

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    But if it's a segment of the fandom that deems themselves the gatekeepers of what is and isn't acceptable for Star Wars (or Star Trek or Marvel or whatever), I don't think anyone should worry about catering to them. No one at LFL should try to deliberately do things that the 'old' fans don't like but if those fans don't like something & don't continue along for the ride, that's their choice. Personally, if there's anything to worry regarding the fanbase, it should be about growing it for the future so they can continue to tell stories in a galaxy far, far away. By telling stories from different types of people with different types of characters, they are growing the fanbase beyond the people (like myself) who have been there for the last 40 years.
     
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    Yes, this is fine. I'm okay with expanding the fan base. It just seems like there could have been a middle ground that would not have isolated core supporters at the same time. I'm happy with Rey being the main protagonist, but her apparent no training necessary skills seem to diminish (in my opinion) the focus on training that Yoda and Obi Wan believed was necessary in the original series (as well as the prequels) especially to keep oneself away from the dark side. Maybe Rey will go to the dark side for all I know in IX...

    I must have misread the post about haters and KK, I apologize. I realize there are a group of fans that are misogynistic. I'm not one of them but I do believe that the Last Jedi in particular felt rushed to do away with Luke as fast as possible and he was not treated with the respect the character deserved. I know he was a whiny punk in New Hope but by Return of the Jedi his character had matured. Treating him the way Johnson and Kennedy did in Last Jedi was a disservice. I didn't mind him becoming "one with the Force" at the end, but his mannerism throughout the film seemed unnatural for his character.
     
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    First three episodes

    Not terrible, not amazing, will see where it goes as the setup is very familiar. I suspect with it being set only 6 months before Episode VII the series is going to eventually run into those events which could make the show interesting given that VII and VIII are so close together.

    I think the animation also doesn’t take long to get used to.
     
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    We have very similar views on the show. Just based on the previous SW animated series, I'm willing to give this show some time to build.

    As for the animation, I still don't particularly like it but I got used to it fairly quickly too.
     
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    PVRd the first two episodes, and absolutely could not stomach the animation style at all. I erased these two and the series schedule for my machine. Yuck, Yuck, Yuck! :unsure::wacko:
     
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    I have to agree with you both. I tried to like it, but this looks more like the juvenile antics of Nickolodean's fare of animation aimed more the Saturday morning cartoon kids. It wasn't so much as the animation as it was the writing and the acting, so bad. The kid runs around worrying about racing and being a spy when he knows nothing about life.

    The reason I enjoyed Rebels so much was that the characters acted much more mature than the ones on Resistance. The only character I liked was Yeager and Tam Ryvora, Yeager's mechanic. The rest of the characters, I couldn't care a crap about. It's just too giddy and kiddy for me. I'm glad that Dave Filoni isn't directing this crap. It just sounds like they deliberately trying to push for the whinest voices on this animated series.

    I think they tried to make this series to anime-like, from top to bottom.
     
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    It was definitely more lighthearted and juvenile in places but I have a feeling things will get less so as it goes on - you just know that his father is going to get caught up in the First Orders attack from VII

    Also the animations lends itself really well to the action moments and flight sequences
     
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    AKA the premise of pretty much every Star Wars story so far

    Definitely more kid friendly but I suppose we can always blame Kathleen Kennedy - we’ve got three more years to do that. :) Not sure why you feel the need to give Filoni a pass but I suppose it doesn’t fit the “narrative” that some have built up around him.

    It definitely has problems but like all the other animated series I’ll give it at least a season. I do think the lead character is the least interesting if only because it’s Luke/Anakin/Ezra etc before stuff happens. Do we really need another character with parental issues ?
     
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    Dave Filoni is the creator but he isn't the showrunner on this series so, love it or hate it, he doesn't deserve all the credit or the blame for the show.
     
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